Fact #162853
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Short story:
Speeding out of their brains, unknown pop fans Noel and Liam Gallagher go to the International Two in Manchester, England, UK, Europe, to see The Stone Roses supporting James at an Anti-Clause 28 gig. Fighting breaks out during the show.
Full article:
Ian Brown : We did an Ati-Clause 28 benefit gig - remember that thing about homosexual literature in schools? That was in May/June ’88.
Gareth Evans (manager, Stone Roses) : We did a number on James at that gig. They have probably never forgiven us for it and I wouldn’t blame them, but we had no choice. James were bigger than the Roses at that point. So we pulled a stroke. Well, several strokes actually.
First of all, I postered all of Manchester and put Stone Roses in huge letters with James really small. They got really annoyed about that. Martine, their manager, was furious. Quite rightly, as we were really the support. So they insisted on going on last, which was fine by me. Sometimes it’s better to go on first.
We were supposed to go on at 8pm with James at about 10.30pm but there was no way I was having that. First of all I slowed down the soundcheck. It took hours. Then, in the evening, I kept the band away from the club and sent a message saying that the band van had broken down. By 9.30 pm the Roses still hadn’t arrived. Tim Booth was running around, absolutely furious.
The Roses finally arrived at 10.30pm and they played until 11,45pm.
Andrew Lauder (MD, Silvertone Records) : That was the first time I’d seen them live. I’d been in discussions with Zomba Records about starting a new label for them, which became Silvertone, because they’d had a lot of dance and pop success but weren’t very strong on the rock side. Then, virtually on the day I signed the Silvertone deal with Zomba, they told me they had signed this band, Stone Roses, that I could have if I wanted as the first band on the new label.
So I went up to see them, and they were a bit rusty that night because they hadn’t played live for a while, but the best parts of the set were brilliant, and I decided there and then that I would like to work with them.
Ian Brown (Stone Roses) : It was the night I realised how powerful we could get. I once said that it was the perfect Roses gig. Well, that wasn’t true. We played much better later on, but I loved the split in the audience.
There were our fans. Our ‘real’ fans who were going mental and then there were the older ones, the ones who had gone to see James, who were on after us. They just stood still, which annoyed me. Nothing against James … good stuff, but they represented the other side of Manchester. The Didsbury, Chorlton, veggie-eating side. I’ve nothing against that either, but it wasn’t us. They didn’t know what had hit them that night. I felt really proud.
Liam Gallagher : That was my favourite gig of all time … killed me dead, changed me fuckin’ life. If I hadn’t have gone that night … and our kid went too … I’d probably still be sitting in some pub in Levenshulme.
John Leckie (record producer) : That was the killer gig, really. I thought they were fantastic, and I just couldn’t wait to get them in the studio. It was just the right time with the right band. I never doubted that it would be special.
Gareth Evans : The thing is, and we knew this only too well, that an awful lot of the kids at that gig had to get the last bus home. And, following the Roses, they left. By the time James finally made the stage, it must have been around midnight, half the audience had gone home. The Stone Roses had completely stolen the scene. I don’t make any apologies for this. We were desperate tomake a big impact that night and everyone says that it was one of the classic Roses gigs.
Andrew Lauder : I was completely unaware of all these shenanigans going on. By the time James came on, I was in the bar, talking with the Roses. Later, we went back to Reni’s place and played records and talked about music well into the night. I was a lot older than them, obviously, but we seemed to have a lot in common. I liked them as people, right from the start.
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Gareth Evans (manager, Stone Roses) : We did a number on James at that gig. They have probably never forgiven us for it and I wouldn’t blame them, but we had no choice. James were bigger than the Roses at that point. So we pulled a stroke. Well, several strokes actually.
First of all, I postered all of Manchester and put Stone Roses in huge letters with James really small. They got really annoyed about that. Martine, their manager, was furious. Quite rightly, as we were really the support. So they insisted on going on last, which was fine by me. Sometimes it’s better to go on first.
We were supposed to go on at 8pm with James at about 10.30pm but there was no way I was having that. First of all I slowed down the soundcheck. It took hours. Then, in the evening, I kept the band away from the club and sent a message saying that the band van had broken down. By 9.30 pm the Roses still hadn’t arrived. Tim Booth was running around, absolutely furious.
The Roses finally arrived at 10.30pm and they played until 11,45pm.
Andrew Lauder (MD, Silvertone Records) : That was the first time I’d seen them live. I’d been in discussions with Zomba Records about starting a new label for them, which became Silvertone, because they’d had a lot of dance and pop success but weren’t very strong on the rock side. Then, virtually on the day I signed the Silvertone deal with Zomba, they told me they had signed this band, Stone Roses, that I could have if I wanted as the first band on the new label.
So I went up to see them, and they were a bit rusty that night because they hadn’t played live for a while, but the best parts of the set were brilliant, and I decided there and then that I would like to work with them.
Ian Brown (Stone Roses) : It was the night I realised how powerful we could get. I once said that it was the perfect Roses gig. Well, that wasn’t true. We played much better later on, but I loved the split in the audience.
There were our fans. Our ‘real’ fans who were going mental and then there were the older ones, the ones who had gone to see James, who were on after us. They just stood still, which annoyed me. Nothing against James … good stuff, but they represented the other side of Manchester. The Didsbury, Chorlton, veggie-eating side. I’ve nothing against that either, but it wasn’t us. They didn’t know what had hit them that night. I felt really proud.
Liam Gallagher : That was my favourite gig of all time … killed me dead, changed me fuckin’ life. If I hadn’t have gone that night … and our kid went too … I’d probably still be sitting in some pub in Levenshulme.
John Leckie (record producer) : That was the killer gig, really. I thought they were fantastic, and I just couldn’t wait to get them in the studio. It was just the right time with the right band. I never doubted that it would be special.
Gareth Evans : The thing is, and we knew this only too well, that an awful lot of the kids at that gig had to get the last bus home. And, following the Roses, they left. By the time James finally made the stage, it must have been around midnight, half the audience had gone home. The Stone Roses had completely stolen the scene. I don’t make any apologies for this. We were desperate tomake a big impact that night and everyone says that it was one of the classic Roses gigs.
Andrew Lauder : I was completely unaware of all these shenanigans going on. By the time James came on, I was in the bar, talking with the Roses. Later, we went back to Reni’s place and played records and talked about music well into the night. I was a lot older than them, obviously, but we seemed to have a lot in common. I liked them as people, right from the start.
(Source : not known)